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Fri, Oct. 12th, 2007 10:34 am
[SFS] Important Note Of Intent

I feel compelled to note at this point that my previous post was actually written 2 nights ago, at such time as I knew about the faux impeachment by Pavis and before I knew about nyren's motion. My read-through and fact-check the next day before posting it delayed the posting long enough that it went up amid a series of emails flying back and forth regarding the real impeachment proceeding, which I wouldn't realize until the second time I read through the meeting minutes.

As of this moment, I still have not heard any grounds for Adler's removal from power in all seriousness. Although my previous article could've been interpreted as criticism of Jonny and his Administration, my intention was to point out the utterly ridiculous position the club as a whole, and the officers as its representatives, has wound its way into, not to state that Adler has co-opted the SFS or is somehow not fulfilling the spirit of his responsibilities.

My criticism of the Constitution was exactly that -- a critique of how out-of-touch our documentation is with our reality. The club is long past the need for an all-encompassing Constitution at this point, and the current crisis brings that point home as we go back to look for guidance from a document that was written as a requirement for creation and gradually tweaked over the years.

Now is not the time to replace our government. Now is the time to replace the rules of our organization, and make them something that I can carry forward the SFS for another 33 years and more. It is time to shorten our Constitution to our most important elements. It is time to, as one body, ratify those elements as the barest essentials needed to operate, and then, it is time to create a system of bylaws to define our day-to-day operations and practices.

The days of innocence are gone for the SFS now. The world, as they say, is changing, and the SFS has grown to fill a larger space within it. More than a club, after 33 years the Science Fiction Society is a major institution on campus, older than many departments. We have the privilege of steering what the new course of this club will be, not only culturally, as our successors will, but also formally, creating the framework that all future generations will work within. Let us reflect on that, and in the coming months create a foundation far stronger than that which we inherited from our predecessors.

Thank you.

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londo
londo
A fool who should know better
Fri, Oct. 12th, 2007 05:45 pm (UTC)

Yeah, that was... poor timing.

"D'oh."

On the other hand, at least it's not poorly-timed intentional dickery.

I'm lookin' at you, nyren.


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nyren
nyren
Nyren
Sun, Oct. 14th, 2007 04:26 am (UTC)

It was never intended as dickery. I'm sorry it came across that way to some people. At the time, and in the situation, it seemed the best way to voice discontentment.

It wasn't, talking with Jonny in private would have been. Having since spoken with Jonny in private, I do not believe this needs to be handled in a dickish manner by either "side."

I'd rather not even have this put forth as "impeachment" at the meeting, which implies that someone needs to be forcibly removed from office.

When A-term started, Jonny asked the club if we thought he should step down, and at that time, no one wanted to say anything. I hear now from some people that they didn't say anything then because they didn't want to deal with the social drama that would have been directed at them as a result. At that time, I didn't have any issues with Jonny.

In speaking with Jonny, he has effectively re-opened that offer. If people honestly think he should step down and allow someone to replace him who can make the meetings and has more time to dedicate to the club, then he'll step down.

What I hope happens is that Jonny and I briefly express our opinions on the matter, and the group present civilly discusses the matter for a short time. One group says, "We think the club would be better off if Jonny stepped down," and another group says, "No, Jonny's doing a great job," and that's the end of it. I have heard quite a bit of anger directed at Jonny, and quite a bit directed at me, and I don't understand the source or need for either.

Unfortunately, I forgot that simply expressing an unpopular or volatile opinion inevitably creates pariahs and polarizes a group of people toward the extremes and away from any semblance of unity.


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londo
londo
A fool who should know better
Sun, Oct. 14th, 2007 05:32 am (UTC)

You can intend whatever you like, but beginning impeachment proceedings on the president when the VP is already in the process of stepping down is a huge, huge deal, and doing that is either amazingly arrogant and dickish, or totally ignorant. Neither of these is really excusable. Voicing discontentment is done by saying "hey, guys, I'm really not happy about this, it kinda sucks," not by invoking emergency measures.

Expressing an unpopular opinion does not inherently polarize or pariah-fy anyone, but doing it extremely badly often does.

You've got lots of good reasons - I certainly don't approve of everything Jonny's done, and have told him so a couple times - but your methods... absolutely blow.


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nyren
nyren
Nyren
Sun, Oct. 14th, 2007 05:41 am (UTC)

I'm sorry.


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witeoutking
witeoutking
Rick
Fri, Oct. 12th, 2007 06:39 pm (UTC)

Cross-posting this from your other post, as this was made 3 hours prior:


...I'm sort of having one of those "WAIT... But I remember this..." moments. Immediately following the 10/10 meeting, myself, Pavis, Robyn, and Tess checked the Constitution and found that Impeachment led to removal from office. And now, upon looking, this clause is... not there.

EDIT: Okay, here's where it is, with extremely poor wording:

"An officer may be impeached by a motion to impeach, a second of that motion, and a 3/4 vote of all active members. The constitutional clause on special elections then becomes operative."

So we have the 3/4 majority bit, followed by the statement that we then move to a special election, which only occurs when an officer is removed from office.

You raise a good question about the librarianship, definitely something we're going to have to consider and (again) try drafting up to clarify in the Constitution.



(Now for non-cross-post):

Nyren has been asked to address the club via the meeting minutes to shed some light on his motion, reasoning, and intent. Hopefully you'll be seeing it soon, it should hopefully explain a good deal of what's happening.

I agree that the SFS has changed, and this is probably the darkest hour the club has seen in a long, LONG time. Its innocence is gone, and this is what remains.


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witeoutking
witeoutking
Rick
Fri, Oct. 12th, 2007 06:40 pm (UTC)

By "meeting minutes", I mean "member list". Dunno how that got messed up.


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elenuial
elenuial
A. Nakama
Fri, Oct. 12th, 2007 07:47 pm (UTC)
This is seventeen levels of silly

"Its innocence is gone"? "darkest hour"?

What is this, a vampire novel?

For Christ's sake, this is not the Scopes trial. Or a debate on the Iraqi war.

Seriously. The situation sucks, but it didn't just come out of nowhere. Making melodrama out of it is just silly. If you don't like drama, then don't treat it as drama.

Otherwise, I'm going to film all of this and submit it to Kilroy.


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witeoutking
witeoutking
Rick
Fri, Oct. 12th, 2007 08:09 pm (UTC)
Re: This is seventeen levels of silly

I was responding in the venacular Brewer was using, not really trying to treat it as drama, per sé.

However, I don't know of anyone mentioning an actual impeachment in the SFS before, so this is sort of a big deal.


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witeoutking
witeoutking
Rick
Fri, Oct. 12th, 2007 08:13 pm (UTC)
Re: This is seventeen levels of silly

Also, yes, that was a bit silly.


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(Anonymous)
Sat, Oct. 13th, 2007 07:35 pm (UTC)
Re: This is seventeen levels of silly

From Jon Adler:

"it didn't just come out of nowhere"

Could you clarify what you meant here?


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jalawingedone
jalawingedone
Fri, Oct. 12th, 2007 10:34 pm (UTC)

This was well said. I would encourage you to modify this and deliver it to the club at one of the meetings. Perhaps not the emergency one, but one soon.


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